Pretty little liars summer school: Season 2 reaction

[00:00:01] Well hello, and it's uh we are back, I guess?

[00:00:19] I guess I would another week another well it's another week another tv show.

[00:00:24] It is yes and what a doozy we have today because we are talking about season two of Pretty Little Liars Original Scenes.

[00:00:34] Original Scenes, yes, but it's titled Summer School. Pretty Little Liars Summer School.

[00:00:40] They're confusing me because they also called chapter 11, 12 and 13 because we're going to be released.

[00:00:46] We are going to talk about the three first episodes of the show.

[00:00:49] Yes, because you know fun fact we recorded this for the first two but due to us not uh

[00:00:58] When you say us it means me.

[00:01:05] Yeah, this has been very unorganized and without thoughts and didn't work out as planned.

[00:01:11] So we will be talking about Pretty Little Liars. We're going to make this a series hopefully weekly.

[00:01:19] If not bi-weekly either way.

[00:01:23] David why don't you take it off like what is the first three episodes? Can you give us a summary?

[00:01:30] Okay, so we got three episodes so far. First episode happened roughly six months after the massacre from season one that happened in 2022.

[00:01:40] So they expecting us what should remember what happened.

[00:01:43] So six months after the massacre the girls eagerly awaited verdict in ace trial as well as much needed break until a failed exam condemned them to a fate worse than death. Summer School.

[00:01:56] While working through the traumas and group therapy session with Dr. Sullivan, Mouse investigated spooky online lesion, emoji and code with three over a baby safety and KB become a native member of a cult like you.

[00:02:08] So that would be the first episode.

[00:02:11] Second episode.

[00:02:13] That first episode.

[00:02:16] Yeah we're going to be talking about the first episode.

[00:02:19] The second episode was actually pretty much haunted by increasingly disturbing hallucination, emoji and attempt to forge new identity outside of Millwood.

[00:02:31] As summer kickoff Noah reconnect with old friends, Tabby meet a new movie buff match, Farron get a job as Millwood community pulls only female lifeguards and Mouse is threatened by an unknown entity.

[00:02:45] And finally episode three was episode three was as a pretty little liars planned Mouse's birthday party, Tabby an image and face boys problem, Noah clashed with Jane and Farron's spears secrets.

[00:03:02] Thank you pretty little liars wiki for these summaries because it was quite hard to actually summarize everything that happened especially on episode one.

[00:03:11] So dramatic and you know one thing that we need to put here is the photo you sent me of the fact that every guy in Pretty Little Liars looks like the guys on this photo.

[00:03:24] What was it?

[00:03:26] Yeah, the first time I was doing research on the show and I just like them they all looking like one of these toxic boyfriend from the games dream phone for those who remember that game from the 90s.

[00:03:39] Finally, Secret admirer.

[00:03:42] So for episode one, what do you think it got right?

[00:03:50] Okay, what he got, I would move to say about what he got wrong but I will say what he got right. I love the design of the title.

[00:03:59] The beginning the title design is amazing. I love the way actually they're really creating this ambiance of first secrets and I just love it.

[00:04:09] The killer design.

[00:04:11] We see that the end of the killer design is really cool.

[00:04:14] And I did love a lot of the homage to the 80s slasher, as well as a very camped dialogues and situations.

[00:04:24] Okay, that's good. You're giving a very generous.

[00:04:31] Yes, I do.

[00:04:33] For me, what it got right was, I like some of the music.

[00:04:40] True.

[00:04:41] That thumbs up.

[00:04:45] I would say the killer was cool.

[00:04:51] It stops there for me. Sorry guys.

[00:04:53] Really? Okay.

[00:04:58] So if we go back to the bed on episode one, I do actually, one thing that went really really hard is actually was very confusing.

[00:05:07] The big issue and I think we talked a lot about it with you Anthony.

[00:05:13] We're actually missing 22 episodes shows, seasons.

[00:05:20] Right now they give us eight, nine, maybe 10 episodes a season.

[00:05:24] And then we have to wait for 25 years for the next season.

[00:05:29] And I'm sorry my brain doesn't keep information that well.

[00:05:33] Same.

[00:05:34] When I started watching the show, I was just like, okay, who are they? What happened? What? Okay. Who is this person? Why are they talking about what?

[00:05:45] And you felt like the first 20 minutes was actually like a full season in 20 minutes.

[00:05:51] Yeah, I feel like it was more of a recap episode.

[00:05:53] I mean, it's been like a year and a half since we last saw and I was just like, who are these people?

[00:05:59] I don't I remember the main characters and that helps.

[00:06:02] I remember that she had a baby that she gave up for adoption.

[00:06:05] And there was a big point where we didn't know if the show was even going to be renewed because HBO Max are I think they call themselves Max now.

[00:06:16] They have not advertised at all.

[00:06:19] I think I saw it from a Facebook, you know, just a random Facebook group posting the poster for it.

[00:06:28] Yeah, eventually they're going to call himself Hem.

[00:06:32] Which would be fitting with a show with a killer called Hey, but yeah, I think like same thing actually.

[00:06:40] So it was canceled and what I found really weird with season with episode one really is that is actually they were acting like it's good thing to try to summarize what happened,

[00:06:52] but they tried to summarize and adding new information.

[00:06:54] And if I remember correctly, the end of season one, which was the killer hasn't been caught.

[00:07:00] So they needed to actually catch the killer.

[00:07:03] And instead of actually doing for the entire season, they do it in the first 20 minutes.

[00:07:06] So it got really confusing to me.

[00:07:09] Like everything was something happened all the time, all the time.

[00:07:13] And they're just showing you these people that you're supposed to know.

[00:07:15] But my brain doesn't work that way.

[00:07:18] I don't know who they are.

[00:07:20] Like, I don't know who they are.

[00:07:22] Like they're having all these women who actually shouting at a girl in the supermarket.

[00:07:29] It was just like, OK, so it took me a while to actually get back into it.

[00:07:34] But they try to actually give a bit of a summary.

[00:07:38] But he was very I think they would have needed one full episode about it and not actually like go in 20 minutes.

[00:07:45] It would have been easier or even actually completely go maybe like six months later,

[00:07:51] spread away and actually start the show with actually the character in a nice setting

[00:07:56] and not actually already in action and actually dangerous right away.

[00:08:00] That could have been much easier.

[00:08:02] To be fair, they could have just did it like the OG did it.

[00:08:05] They could have just said last time, I'm pretty little liar.

[00:08:07] And just give us a full rundown of the main points.

[00:08:10] That's true.

[00:08:13] The bad thing I have as well, I can't stand the song.

[00:08:16] I just can't stand the song.

[00:08:18] Is it the is it the piercing scene?

[00:08:20] This one is a cover version.

[00:08:22] It is a cover version.

[00:08:23] It should be so terrible.

[00:08:24] I just can't stand it.

[00:08:25] Already the song after six seasons of the original, I couldn't stand the song.

[00:08:30] I was actually just fast forwarding the song because I couldn't stand it anymore.

[00:08:36] But this is another type of really bad.

[00:08:39] It's just no, no, no.

[00:08:41] Sorry.

[00:08:42] David is a hater.

[00:08:44] I'm not a hater.

[00:08:45] It's just a bad song.

[00:08:47] Just if you want to do a song, just use the original bloody.

[00:08:51] Yeah.

[00:08:53] French motivated.

[00:08:56] OK.

[00:08:57] The episode two was when I started to get more into it.

[00:09:01] So I guess the good things for me for episode two was I felt like they were pretty much trying to make the timing ambiguous.

[00:09:09] And it was a lot of call back to things that I kind of grew up with, you know, being a Y2K kid pretty much.

[00:09:15] You know, I grew up in that area.

[00:09:20] So seeing a lot of the fashion, even down to the old HTML on the Web site, it was it was fun.

[00:09:28] It was fun.

[00:09:29] And I feel like this show does it just tries to make the timing very ambiguous or maybe they're trying to do decade.

[00:09:37] Like they're going from different decades to each episode because we haven't gotten into season three yet, but you're right.

[00:09:43] It did feel kind of like another different time.

[00:09:45] But episode two really kind of felt like very Y2K is a throwback to the Y2K or movies and everything else.

[00:09:58] Are there there any two thousand?

[00:09:59] I don't know.

[00:10:00] I don't know what you kids call it these days.

[00:10:03] Yes, old man.

[00:10:06] What about for you?

[00:10:10] Again, I actually love the I really love the fact that we don't know which period it is.

[00:10:18] I love the the know that different horror movies and actually like this is for now.

[00:10:26] This is kind of an issue I have is I don't know if the writers are doing it on purpose or they're actually very bad writers.

[00:10:36] There is a lot of know there's a lot of things that actually like I feel like the shooting the scene was just like a bit of a second of actually too much when they actually say something which is just too bad.

[00:10:49] Just like they say, oh, we are just underage girl.

[00:10:52] Girl, you're 23.

[00:10:54] And look, you got to start to get crowd feeds in your face.

[00:10:57] Not 16.

[00:10:58] And they just say just a slightly longer on the face.

[00:11:02] And it was like, they know.

[00:11:05] And for me, I really thought the actress to play Imogen might have been in that age range because I grew up with her and she was always like a baby and everything.

[00:11:14] But seeing that she's 23 or 24.

[00:11:18] But I was actually kind of kind of shook.

[00:11:21] And if anyone has seen the Bridge to Terabithia, you all remember her as Maybel, the one that would hold their eyes together and just look at her tongue all the time like.

[00:11:31] I made the right show.

[00:11:35] Okay.

[00:11:37] But yeah, it's good to see that she is working.

[00:11:41] And I think she's a good actress.

[00:11:43] I think she's really good in this role.

[00:11:45] For me, what I liked about the original Predelita Liars and a lot of the show that I really enjoyed is when they're actually going out there with the ideas.

[00:12:00] And one of the best ideas so far is the fact that one of the characters being into this kind of church group.

[00:12:09] And they are doing a redemption house and the Catholic girls are actually fighting for the role of the premarital sex girl.

[00:12:17] That scene, it just, oh you make my day.

[00:12:21] It was just hilarious to actually see this Christian girl trying to be the best sin because actually her mother, oh I'm just going to be the premeditated girl.

[00:12:30] Just like what?

[00:12:31] You just make me laugh.

[00:12:33] Yeah, it's also kind of funny to me with the love interests that are kind of introduced in this episode like Christian for example.

[00:12:41] But if you really look at it in context, it seems each love interest seems to hold a place in a decade like Christian is more high school music.

[00:12:51] I was waiting for him to dance.

[00:12:54] Yeah, very much that.

[00:12:56] But then we got the other guy Johnny who is pretty much a Johnny Depp from Wish.

[00:13:01] Oh yes.

[00:13:03] And that kind of screams more in late 80s kind of.

[00:13:07] So it's very interesting to see that they're just taking a lot of the tropes and running wild with it.

[00:13:13] And then let's not forget Harry Nelson which is I don't know why he's there for.

[00:13:19] The only thing he's been doing so far is being miserable, complaining, can't find a job when everyone else is finding a job in that episode which is crazy.

[00:13:28] And we also need to talk about that episode how Imogen just casually walked up and just got a job pretending to be someone else.

[00:13:37] She didn't even like who needs social security girl?

[00:13:39] Like she was just hi my name is you know Lee Abel.

[00:13:46] It was Lee Abel.

[00:13:48] And I'm just like and you know the waitress is just like or the owner of the restaurant is just like okay girl get in there and marry the catch up.

[00:13:57] And I'm like if only it was that easy.

[00:14:02] I know.

[00:14:03] Do you have any experience?

[00:14:06] I work in a sub kitchen.

[00:14:08] Okay.

[00:14:10] No reference is nothing.

[00:14:12] No of course not.

[00:14:13] Let's just get her out there.

[00:14:16] But I think and that's something I'm going to come back to for episode three.

[00:14:21] But I think that is one thing for me which is an issue with writing which is they seem to actually decide situation based on what they actually they know they want something to happen, an action to happen.

[00:14:39] And for that they need to actually get for example the Imogen out of Millwood.

[00:14:44] And they found that situation.

[00:14:46] But as soon as the action is done, the entire situation is just void.

[00:14:52] It does is not even talked again in this episode, the next episode, which is maybe that's an issue with the writing I think but when we know the producer is a guy you don't Riverdale, we can't ask much.

[00:15:08] Yeah, to be fair I feel like Riverdale went through a lot of decades as well.

[00:15:13] You know they randomly had and a lot of the seasons felt I haven't watched the season with where they went full on supernatural with vampires and witches.

[00:15:22] But yeah, that's the thing.

[00:15:31] It even had a guest appearance from the Sabrina from the Netflix show.

[00:15:36] So, okay. Yeah, I still haven't watched it.

[00:15:40] Oh, maybe not. I don't know.

[00:15:43] What do you think should David Washington?

[00:15:46] Please.

[00:15:47] Otherwise, for me, this is one of the things that I found an issue for me is that let's go back into the characters we're looking at.

[00:15:59] We are setting up these characters actually went to a very, very difficult thing last season.

[00:16:08] And they've been stalked and everything else and they got this private phone number only for them and they start to give it numbers to everyone.

[00:16:19] When the scene before they were talking we have to be careful only give number for ourselves, and the next the next the next scene they actually giving it to everyone.

[00:16:28] And you just thinking, come on.

[00:16:35] So weird.

[00:16:36] Hopefully this wasn't written by Chagy BT, you know, here and take a bunch of scripts from you know these movies just let's bring it all together.

[00:16:47] There's a lot of there's a lot of not to a lot of movies and personally one of my favorite characters really it's the movie buff Christian and TV company, tabby tabby tabby and Christian.

[00:17:03] Because they're the closer to the person I am in terms of actually like what you know me so just movies and stuff.

[00:17:11] And they kind of an entrance to actually a lot of the same.

[00:17:15] They talk about a movie and we're actually going to see a note to it during the episode, which is very interesting.

[00:17:20] Yes, they do have a lot of votes to movies in that episode.

[00:17:24] My particular favorite one is the one the reference to job breaker in the bathroom.

[00:17:29] I'm just like, I'm gonna put a side by side comparison in the video just so you guys can see it.

[00:17:34] It even is like the same color.

[00:17:36] I was just like, I agree.

[00:17:40] But let's come on.

[00:17:41] Let's really talk about something very important.

[00:17:43] I really hope we're going to see it at the before the end of the season.

[00:17:46] I want to see the pillow fights.

[00:17:50] Oh yes, there's a pillow fight on the there's a pillow fight adverts for some reason.

[00:17:56] They step for a reason. Sorry, the pillow fight. I want to see a pillow fight.

[00:17:59] He has to be a pillow fight.

[00:18:02] So we actually also see for the first time the killer really do his thing and it's gruesome, which was a positive for me like he's nice to see some gruesome kill from time to time.

[00:18:15] And I'll talk about the killer gender neutral.

[00:18:17] So we're going to just say they are you sure.

[00:18:24] Okay, that is a yeah.

[00:18:29] Well, you know, also I guess for episode three, episode three was a little bit more.

[00:18:39] It's hard to sum up.

[00:18:40] I feel like it was a lot of the characters kind of

[00:18:45] kind of getting their characters across like we have tabby who comes and you know she goes on a date with the Christian guy.

[00:18:54] We've got I think Fallon who's, you know, the lifeguard.

[00:18:59] We got Imogen who's finally left the other place that she was catfishing.

[00:19:08] She never talked about whenever so equate.

[00:19:10] She just suddenly she worked in the creamery with Johnny from which yeah, I'm so sorry we got all this.

[00:19:17] So what do you think on episode three?

[00:19:19] What do you think again?

[00:19:20] Right. Well, the first word I put in a review is annoyance galore because I got so annoyed with the thing that happened in that episode three.

[00:19:30] What really annoys me is like when you set up characters and they're actually you use a trauma just for certain scene and then you forget about them.

[00:19:41] For example, Imogen and Farah.

[00:19:46] Was it Farah?

[00:19:47] No, Imogen and Tabby got, you know, assaulted by Chad if I remember on season one.

[00:19:56] So that surely is traumatic.

[00:19:59] Imogen was pregnant after giving up a baby.

[00:20:04] Okay.

[00:20:06] But she get she she she fell in love with Johnny which is the worst most toxic guy you can actually see in that show.

[00:20:16] Well, she hasn't fallen in love with him yet.

[00:20:19] She likes him.

[00:20:20] Okay.

[00:20:21] Come on.

[00:20:22] Yeah, I really hate how he just treated her like garbage until he went to her back.

[00:20:28] So it was like, oh, you survived that?

[00:20:30] I just want you to know I'm not.

[00:20:32] Oh, no, that's you know, I know that you're broken.

[00:20:35] I want you because I know I can control you.

[00:20:38] Pretty much.

[00:20:40] That's pretty much what it is.

[00:20:41] And Imogen just like, yes, please control me.

[00:20:48] I really love the way she actually acted at first when actually so when she saw Johnny just talking to that girl and then everything is reverted because they need a love interest.

[00:21:00] No, I'm sorry.

[00:21:02] No, that's how it worked that way.

[00:21:05] But we also forget though that Tabby got her love interest Christian as well.

[00:21:12] But so she went on a date and I just think it's just crazy.

[00:21:16] It had me dying laughing when you were like, oh really a 16 year old has $10,000 worth of equipment in their basement.

[00:21:24] I was just like, oh yes, I'm do special effects in the basement.

[00:21:27] Have you seen the price of the bloody thing she was using in there?

[00:21:32] Maybe he maybe got a special maybe he got a special deal on Tmoo.

[00:21:39] Okay.

[00:21:41] And he's actually he got a bigger basement and most people just like come on please.

[00:21:46] And oh yes, my parents are artists.

[00:21:49] Okay, they live in New York because you don't have enough money but they can spend $30,000 on equipment for you to do little masks.

[00:21:58] Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying like the rent in New York City is like maybe five, five thousand four thousand so they moved to Millwood but rents probably like what $800 I mean.

[00:22:08] Yeah, yeah just to spend $20,000 on the equipment for the song.

[00:22:13] Who's a student.

[00:22:16] And we also can't forget I can't remember the other characters name. Oh guys, we got to remember these names.

[00:22:23] The one who's pretty much Shay Mitchell this on this one.

[00:22:28] So basically she is kind of like a love flirtation if you will with Jen, the lead like the resident lesbian you know every

[00:22:42] So is you. Okay.

[00:22:46] They just oh let's just put her in here. Yeah, let's just put her in there and I'm just like okay.

[00:22:51] Oh, but yeah so Jen.

[00:22:54] She's got a little bit of shady business going on. She does I mean she's stealing tips. I'm not sure what what's going on at home but yeah her homegirl wasn't having it she just like, she covers for Jen at first you know counting the money.

[00:23:09] She's just like, oh you gotta pay me back and yeah and flash forward to later in the episode where, of course we have the resident pigs.

[00:23:20] It was just like, oh, you want a tip here's the tip baby. Oh, I'll give you more than just a tip. And I'm just like, look at you.

[00:23:30] We're gonna have to make it for adults this video with you in there.

[00:23:36] Company for kids anymore.

[00:23:39] Yeah, it's just like for me.

[00:23:42] And this is the issue with the father only have 10 episode or nine episodes to go through the story.

[00:23:48] This kind of subplot would have lasted two or three episodes.

[00:23:53] And what I see actually the repercussion of it.

[00:23:57] Excuse me.

[00:23:59] But now, because only have nine episodes they have to go quickly in the story so usually this kind of subplot get results right away.

[00:24:07] There is less of an impact for it and this is a big issue with a lot of show nowadays actually a lot of subplot don't have no impact in the story.

[00:24:16] And that's one perfect example. When she stole the tip.

[00:24:20] Oh, we know that she actually stole the tip.

[00:24:24] They actually what's her name? I can't remember her name now either.

[00:24:29] The other little liar.

[00:24:32] She's pissed at her because she's done that and 10 minutes later they're friends again.

[00:24:39] Please.

[00:24:40] That doesn't work in real life.

[00:24:42] Yeah, back in back in my day when original Pretty Little Liars was on TV.

[00:24:47] An art like that would have lasted multiple episodes.

[00:24:51] There were a few episodes like that where something happened and now you get two or three episodes with them seeing them in the distance giving them like the mean.

[00:24:59] The scowl and then you know eventually they would talk towards the season finale.

[00:25:04] So yeah I do.

[00:25:06] I do miss this ability to storytell.

[00:25:09] But I feel like that's more just the format nowadays not really something that the show did bad.

[00:25:16] I think it's just hey it's what it's what's the move nowadays.

[00:25:20] It is unfortunately.

[00:25:22] But I did love the fact that we actually again a lot of node of classics for example.

[00:25:29] We actually because we have to talk about the fact that they kind of saw everything to see what's taking that episode with.

[00:25:36] Let's go to a pizzeria which is.

[00:25:40] Little which is.

[00:25:43] For that I'm ready inspired for the end of the episode.

[00:25:48] And let's put it a bit of Jurassic Park with a scene in kitchen.

[00:25:54] Which is funny it's fun to see this classic if you actually know no of this movie is actually fun to see that she used the same kind of shot to actually do the scene.

[00:26:03] That was found by the same time.

[00:26:07] Do we really need a recycled of actually what works.

[00:26:11] I want to actually I would like pretty to last to actually do something different and they really feel all this put that pizzeria there because it worked with.

[00:26:20] And he doesn't add anything to the thing at all and that's my that's one of the negative I have about that episode.

[00:26:28] A lot of stuff was weird the character reaction were weird.

[00:26:34] Like you tell me that I'll be with the feminist will actually use Jurassic Park as a favorite movie.

[00:26:40] When for the other season one they were talking about being feminist be proud to be black and everything else but she using Jurassic Park the movie was no black character.

[00:26:49] As a favorite movie this is weird to me.

[00:26:53] Yes I guess we're going to live with this under things they got wrong right.

[00:26:57] We are.

[00:26:59] Definitely.

[00:27:01] I definitely feel that.

[00:27:03] Like it's just like the action they are making just be to a completely what do you expect them to act like because they set up characters and we expect them to act a certain way and when they don't is really frustrating.

[00:27:18] The entire idea that actually oh yes she's actually was supposed to she was assaulted in a basement by his best friend and what she does she goes to the basement with a person she just met the day before.

[00:27:32] Really.

[00:27:36] This is a thing like this you still make any any that's making sense to me.

[00:27:41] For also put that is being too much on what has been popular which is something can could get annoying if they actually keep recycling things.

[00:27:50] I'm confused with also the grandmothers.

[00:27:55] Really confused with the grandmother because she said that someone told her that to bring a mouse to the to the pizzeria.

[00:28:02] Yeah I feel like she kind of she might have or is getting Alzheimer's or dementia so the killers trying to use that to their advantage in a way that means you say oh oh yes your friend told me to bring you there.

[00:28:17] But

[00:28:20] we know that all the friends actually went to the same place at that time and we had to kill it just like for me it's just very weird.

[00:28:28] Let's just hope that they're not doing an ode to the OG Pretty Little Liars where there's actually oh no we've already had the twin.

[00:28:36] Wait.

[00:28:37] I keep forgetting that Kelly.

[00:28:39] Kelly's sister?

[00:28:43] Because there were two twins right this is the issue.

[00:28:46] We don't know who it is.

[00:28:48] Yeah this is the issue with it being like a year and a half in between okay so

[00:28:53] could the twin be

[00:28:57] the killer?

[00:28:59] No because the other twin died.

[00:29:01] I mean that's what I'm saying like I know you I know that you haven't read the Pretty Little Liars books and everything but there's always a death and there's always they're lurking in the shadows somewhere that was kind of the whole premise of you know Pretty Little Liars where oh

[00:29:14] they're

[00:29:16] are they though?

[00:29:18] Well I'm sorry but I think we can safely say after the original got a doll house which actually like certainly something would have cost a million dollars with someone who doesn't have a house as actually one plot point in the full season.

[00:29:33] I think we can have everything in that show. We could get aliens you know that would not surprise me.

[00:29:38] Let's be honest.

[00:29:40] Okay.

[00:29:41] Also let's talk about Harry Nelson.

[00:29:45] The character was okay in season one.

[00:29:48] He was basically important in some way because he was a dancer with Farah.

[00:29:56] He hasn't done nothing.

[00:29:58] There's been three episodes, the guy has been complaining and that's it and now he's just going away because oh you lied to me I need to think about it.

[00:30:06] Just like kill him already, murder him because he's useless right now.

[00:30:14] Okay so I guess we also need to talk about who we think the killer is.

[00:30:21] Yeah that's a new stuff this season we decided to actually try to guess who the killer is before the end of the season.

[00:30:27] That's going to be fun.

[00:30:29] Now I know your first guess was Dr. Sullivan who for those of you that aren't original Pretty Little Liars fans, she was in the original and she was the therapist in that as well.

[00:30:44] So it's kind of interesting to see that she's the one that kind of bridges these two together.

[00:30:50] But David why do you think she's the killer?

[00:30:54] For me I would actually say things kind of change between episode one and episode three.

[00:30:59] So episode one the reason why I thought it was her because for me she's the only one that actually have knowledge of everything the other girls are doing.

[00:31:07] She's a psychiatrist so she actually able to actually one-to-one with every main characters.

[00:31:15] And for me that was maybe like a thing for me because the other characters like Christian for now for you Christian was actually one of the possible other accomplice or killer.

[00:31:33] I find that Christian is way too easy because oh he's actually oh he's everything that women just dream for, dream of.

[00:31:44] Let's be honest those of us like for example that watched the last scream it was pretty obvious who the killer was so you know it wouldn't surprise me if they just made it up.

[00:31:59] And but going to episode three and because I am pretty sure they're going to be using the redemption house as a finale scene it could actually be that woman in a church.

[00:32:15] She's weird.

[00:32:16] I think for me right now I think maybe the lifeguard team could be in on it but we don't really see them any other time outside of the pool.

[00:32:31] But also now that I'm thinking about it when was the last time we really seen Kelly with the girls when they're being butchered.

[00:32:41] I think the first time was at the episode three you know when she was at the party with Mouse.

[00:32:46] Yeah because she was on that year or she kept spending her time with a boyfriend trying to actually not have sex.

[00:32:54] I don't know little sus.

[00:32:58] I feel like I feel it could be I don't know what would the no mean actually she called it a final girls in a mouse is called the final girls and I found the time final girls is very particular to a certain kind of audience.

[00:33:17] Would actually someone doesn't who's not doesn't understand or a movie would actually know what time final girl is.

[00:33:28] It's just weird. It's just like I'm confused.

[00:33:30] I'm a bit confused.

[00:33:32] So you're circling back to Christian is what I'm hearing.

[00:33:37] I don't think Christian is because Christian always been actually with the other character whether one of them when someone got killed.

[00:33:45] And let's be honest, let's see we got three people who got killed we don't really mention that much in the police is not involved or nothing which is weird to me.

[00:33:54] But it would have to be someone that's watching from a distance because how else would you know to kill the girl that was against Kelly's part or whatever.

[00:34:06] How would you know you know mouse's grandmother has you know Alzheimer's or dementia or whatever.

[00:34:14] So like it had to be somebody watching from a distance that's kind of in the network but maybe not as obvious.

[00:34:22] For me that could be the girl in a church or it could be the psychiatrist for me the psychiatrist fit the bill but I might be.

[00:34:29] I don't you know I don't know the moms are acting a little shady too.

[00:34:32] I was like you know oh we don't have a resident lesbian that's right because the moms are also okay so pardon me.

[00:34:42] Now there is a lesbian on the cruise somewhere.

[00:34:44] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:34:46] I was thinking about that because the moms are.

[00:34:51] Which I wonder that should they have not been being kidnapped.

[00:34:55] But that's my that's that's my right because I put in my head, they've been kidnapped from the beginning we're going to see them basically in a redemption house as a, as a piece for just like, we can't condemn we have to condemn homosexuality look at these two lesbians.

[00:35:13] Yeah, the mom.

[00:35:15] Yeah, I keep forgetting that.

[00:35:18] And what else.

[00:35:20] So I guess has image in the mom body and found I can't remember in the last season.

[00:35:27] Yes, yes she was actually emotion mom was actually in the bath dead.

[00:35:32] Oh yeah that's right. It was a no match to it.

[00:35:36] Here's my thing with pretty little liars and I know it's on a different network and different writers, but pretty little liars always has a way of making you believe someone's actually dead.

[00:35:47] But they're not.

[00:35:49] So, is it they always find a way to make it work, which is always kind of odd to me, but for example for those of you that don't know spoiler alert and the original pretty little liars.

[00:36:02] In the book I think was Allison, that that has a, that has a twin or I think Allison does have a twin in the pretty little eyes original but the twin is trans.

[00:36:13] So, that's in the show.

[00:36:16] But in the books there is a twin that I think is Allison has been kind of foggy but they actually turn out to be Spencer, Spencer is actually the one who has the twin and Spencer's twin is the one that's been doing everything.

[00:36:31] So this whole time nobody knew Spencer had a twin.

[00:36:37] So it kind of makes me wonder like are they going to try to do something like that or are probably not. They probably want to do something out left field to kind of separate themselves but it would be interesting to see.

[00:36:50] I would say it's actually really leaning on the camp right now.

[00:36:54] Something that from the dialogue to the references to some of the sequences are really leaning towards a camp and kind of a John Waters fan.

[00:37:07] I can see some kind of John Waters influence to it, which is really hilarious.

[00:37:13] Is it a bad show? No.

[00:37:15] Is it a good show right now? I'm a bit on the fence because I would be really annoyed if they decide to bring a killer that we never seen before.

[00:37:29] Well, you have nine episodes.

[00:37:32] I mean, well, we can't forget about the obvious person who could be the killer. It would be the actual killer's mother, you know, the one that they're terrified of.

[00:37:41] I mean, it's too obvious, right? But hey, I don't know.

[00:37:46] I guess that's the interesting thing. Like we don't talk about the fact that he was the principal who actually was responsible for the killing in season one and he seemed to have disappeared completely.

[00:37:59] It's just weird for me. There's this very weird thing that actually they actually had the killer was the killer plus the principal.

[00:38:07] You know what guys? You know what guys? At least me, I'm going to go back and watch season one.

[00:38:14] Maybe that's a good idea. Yes, I agree.

[00:38:17] Because I need to know. I'm trying to connect the dots. The math's not mathed for me.

[00:38:22] It's been two years as well. So let's be honest. We don't know what happened. It's been two years and is that the same?

[00:38:30] You really feel like actually they are making it up as they go sometimes.

[00:38:36] Well, you also said that about from and let's hope they got a solution this season.

[00:38:44] Which by the way guys, yeah, our From series will return.

[00:38:52] Yes, I guess we can wrap up for this episode because it's getting long now.

[00:39:01] Oh, I was thinking you said it.

[00:39:05] So far we'd say so. So would you if you had to give one person that would be the killer so far, would it be for you? One person?

[00:39:13] I'm still a southern Christian. Sorry.

[00:39:16] Okay, the form is going to be that girl that women in the church don't know her name.

[00:39:20] Okay, well we'll see when episode four comes out. We're one step closer to solving this mystery.

[00:39:30] Until then as always, I'm Anthony. I'm David.

[00:39:37] See you next week. See you next week.